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16.03.2007, 05:49

Did the Army or Marines come first?

Did the Army or Marines come first? I think the National Girls were first, but they are apart of the Army so that means the Army came first?
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16.03.2007, 06:13

not sure but i think the marines came first 1775

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps




And Army came 1784


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army
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16.03.2007, 06:42

please read the sites you linked to. marines came from the continental marines which were formed in Nov. 1775. the army came from the continental army which formed in june of 1775.

so the army came first, but it's really a pointless question because both are in far different forms than they started as.

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16.03.2007, 09:06

Are you only talking about the United States Marines and Army or you also want to know about other country's?

Dutch Navy; 1488 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_navy#Origins )
Dutch Marines: 10 december 1665 as the Regiment Marines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Marines )
Dutch Army; "late 16th century" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_hi….281568-1648.29 )

edit2; gotta love wikipedia :laugh:

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16.03.2007, 20:47

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Originally posted by Teammate
Are you only talking about the United States Marines and Army or you also want to know about other country's?

Dutch Navy; 1488 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_navy#Origins )
Dutch Marines: 10 december 1665 as the Regiment Marines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Marines )
Dutch Army; "late 16th century" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_hi….281568-1648.29 )

edit2; gotta love wikipedia :laugh:


lol yeah theres where i get a lot of my information ahhah ;) :hehe:
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16.03.2007, 20:54

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Originally posted by 3D-$oN
not sure but i think the marines came first 1775

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps




And Army came 1784


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army


No the Marines came in 1413................oh wait, you are talking about the US marines yes?

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16.03.2007, 20:58

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Originally posted by Odin[DK]

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Originally posted by 3D-$oN
not sure but i think the marines came first 1775

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps




And Army came 1784


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army


No the Marines came in 1413................oh wait, you are talking about the US marines yes?


Why don't be silly Odin, the US is the only country with an Army and Marines, therefore he must be talking about the US!


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16.03.2007, 21:18

armies were first, historically speaking. people would have a land force before having a naval force.

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the US is the only country with an Army and Marines, therefore he must be talking about the US!


sorry to burst your bubble but the british empire had an army and marine force before the americans. if your taught anything in school thats even a little bit valuable, youd know that the british military is alot older than america itself let alone americas army/navy. :S

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_col…of_the_Americas

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16.03.2007, 21:25

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Originally posted by {S=F=C}_Viking
please read the sites you linked to. marines came from the continental marines which were formed in Nov. 1775. the army came from the continental army which formed in june of 1775.

so the army came first, but it's really a pointless question because both are in far different forms than they started as.


You are right, I know they are different, but I was walking with my Army friends, and some Marine recruiters asked why we joined the Army instead of the Maines, and I spoke for the rest of us and said, "The Army came first." And he said "Actually, the Marines did. You should do your homework." And I thought he was full of crap and we blew him off. I thought the Army was first, thank you. That is why I wanted to know
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16.03.2007, 21:43

well army has been around the longest. Because the Greeks and other countries called their troops armies not marines so i bet army is the oldest.




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17.03.2007, 22:36

As far as world history and the development of military goes: Army came first.


As far as the United States goes, the Continental Militia and Army were first.

The militia was the equivalent to a Reserve Army unit or, if larger, to a National Guard unit.

[d]The reason that the Marine Corps was "founded" first because there was already a ground-force intact (Continental Army/Militia) at the time. However, I suppose it wasn't until later that we determined to title our Army into a collective force.[/d]


EDIT: Scratch that. The Continental Army, the origin of the US Army, was founded by the First Continental Congress. The Second Continental Congress founded the Marine Corps. The first Marine units were simply members of the Continental Army deployed to protect Navy ships on the sea. Just like back then, the USMC is a department of the Navy (not its own branch--- though they like to claim). They are, ultimately, under Navy Command.

So you can tell him that the Army was founded before the USMC. If he doesn't buy it, just call him a Sailor--- he can't deny it. It always makes them mad.


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17.03.2007, 22:50

I have to correct myself, I looked it up again. We weren't formed in 1413 but in 1428...... the Marines that is. Sorry guys................. :shock:

@[.duck.]; Mickey Mouse army's doesn't count ;)

Countries like Denmark, Great Britain, Sweden and even France had Marines long before the US, so they just copied the rest of us. And like with many other things which is a copy..................!!!

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12.05.2007, 07:09

i beleave theyboth came at the same time