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23.06.2007, 05:06

Stats are'nt everything

When I first started playing BF2 I knew that the game was a rank progression type of game. I DIDN'T care. What I was most exicited about was the possibilities the game presented. There were wicked weapons and vehicles and planes and a game style that promoted team play. I was in heaven. For a guy who was playing Quake online with a 56k modem and thinking that it couldn't get better years ago this was a modern marvel.

I really enjoyed the game early on but was pwned and artied so often that I "gave up for a while (9 months). When i came back to the game I started playing better and suddenly I was getting medals and badges. I was not sure what the requirements were that I met to get these badges, so I researched and found sites like this one that explained it all. This prompted me to quit playing assualt and spec ops and branch out playing other kits and "working" for stats and ranks. I really enjoyed this part of the game too. But it also brought a fair amount of frustration out in me when I would get 6 knife kills IAR or 19 kills IRA just missing the "candy". I became a stat junkie ,always going for that one badge and getting mad or sad depending on how the game went that round...etc.

Now that the stats have been down for awhile I am rediscovering the game for what I had originally bought it for, a realistic FPS with rag doll physics, great team play, a variety of strategies, and a great community.

The long and short of it is that I have quit worrying about my stats and have started to play the game for nothing else then the enjoyment and fun it provides.

I encourage you all to play for the FUN of it, the stats will be back sonn enough.

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23.06.2007, 05:13

I agree I'm not a stats junkie like the jet whores, but I am still missing two unlocks and I would have had them by now also got expert medic but I can get them again I guess.

I find that since I was never a stat junkie and never lost the enjoyment of the game, I can still have fun playing. At the moment I have been flying a jet with my new joystick. Its cool cause I don't have to worry about the stats, as I don't think EA will return the stats we've earned only fixed the update issue.



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23.06.2007, 09:34

man what annoys me is the 2 extremes of people that claim they don't care about the stats system.

1: noobs with low scores after owning the game for 2 years i.e the OP.

2: vets with high scores/ranks like 200,000+ Colonels or 1 Stars after owning the game 2 years.




Personally, I have had the game 9 months and I have not played it at all in the past week other than a quick test round to see if my scores update. When they don't, I don't play....
I daresay thats the way most people feel. This game would simply NOT have the huge following it does if it wasn't a globally tracked and ranked game with all the badges etc.


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23.06.2007, 09:38

RE: Stats are'nt everything

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Originally posted by chieffangrande
When I first started playing BF2 I knew that the game was a rank progression type of game. I DIDN'T care. What I was most exicited about was the possibilities the game presented. There were wicked weapons and vehicles and planes and a game style that promoted team play. I was in heaven. For a guy who was playing Quake online with a 56k modem and thinking that it couldn't get better years ago this was a modern marvel.

I really enjoyed the game early on but was pwned and artied so often that I "gave up for a while (9 months). When i came back to the game I started playing better and suddenly I was getting medals and badges. I was not sure what the requirements were that I met to get these badges, so I researched and found sites like this one that explained it all. This prompted me to quit playing assualt and spec ops and branch out playing other kits and "working" for stats and ranks. I really enjoyed this part of the game too. But it also brought a fair amount of frustration out in me when I would get 6 knife kills IAR or 19 kills IRA just missing the "candy". I became a stat junkie ,always going for that one badge and getting mad or sad depending on how the game went that round...etc.

Now that the stats have been down for awhile I am rediscovering the game for what I had originally bought it for, a realistic FPS with rag doll physics, great team play, a variety of strategies, and a great community.

The long and short of it is that I have quit worrying about my stats and have started to play the game for nothing else then the enjoyment and fun it provides.

I encourage you all to play for the FUN of it, the stats will be back sonn enough.

personally I dont care about stats I just like to know how many points and how many kills/deaths I get from when I started player.

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23.06.2007, 09:45

well, its pretty poor form that the problem has been around for a few weeks now, with no fix. points and rank are tied in with weapons.... its unfair for those under 50,000 points who want to get all the unlocks - but cant.
Im ok, Ive got what I wanted out of the game, although I would have loved my sniper expert when I got 71 Kills the other night - I hate sniping but put up with it for 100hrs to get the gold badge; I play as an assualt sniper as I just cant sit back and do sweet FA.... Its a pity now I find I cant get that damn badge. :ranting:

poor form EA, fix the fkn problem.

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23.06.2007, 09:49

Nice post man!
yeah it wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for the stats but they will def be back and hopefully we'll get what we've earned back. It's all a matter if the servers still have the stats on them and I heard they hold them for 30 days so as soon as the system is fixed the stats will be flooding in. I'm glad I play other games. I did earn a ribbon on Sunday or Monday and hope I get it but if not oh well I'll just get it again. Once Quake wars comes out, many people will be going to that anyway. Very very team play oriented and just AWESOME looking and not too futuristic I think for just about everyone to play. I'll be playing both!

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23.06.2007, 10:04

"quote" Now that the stats have been down for awhile I am rediscovering the game for what I had originally bought it for, a realistic FPS with rag doll physics, great team play, a variety of strategies, and a great community.

The long and short of it is that I have quit worrying about my stats and have started to play the game for nothing else then the enjoyment and fun it provides.

I totally agree i always played on inf only servers as sniper/spec ops, over the past few days i found myself on vechile servers and realised what i was missing, last night on jala i took out the usmc uav got three kills and stole a tank in one swoop, i wasnt bothered about points it was the exitement and adrenaline rush that playing bf2 should be, like chieffangranade says im rediscovering the game again.

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23.06.2007, 10:24

Without the stat system, this game community will degrease in numbers quickly, whether you like it or not.
There are several new games with all kind of stat systems waiting and they will harvest what has been seeded in BF2.

I've already played a few evenings with ETQW, I can tell you its feels and looks a lot like BF2 with many extras.
In half a year COD4 will be published, well in mp mode its infantry only also with stats.
I don't even mention FFOW, another BF2 clone
You can imagine what those games will do with the remaining BF2 community.

Of course, a few stubborn ppl will stay and play the mods of BF2 ( there are already alternative stat systems at work for those mods btw...)
That's the future of BF2, new dev team or not.
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23.06.2007, 10:33

RE: Stats are'nt everything

Stats might not be everything, but to me - the stat system is what makes the game worth playing, and the main feature that makes the game stand out from the crowd. Without the stats i'd be playing a bunch of other games. I'm not even a good player, but i enjoy the game and that is what it's all about (to me anyways). :)

...thats my 2 cents worth... :)

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23.06.2007, 10:42

Its actually pretty funny when you know stats are not registering. Lately I've been seeing how many shock paddle kills i can get in a game and not care about kdr. My record so far is 19 ^^

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23.06.2007, 11:14

RE: Stats are'nt everything

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Originally posted by chieffangrande


Now that the stats have been down for awhile I am rediscovering the game for what I had originally bought it for, a realistic FPS with rag doll physics, great team play, a variety of strategies





Aha, joke? I hope so.

I wish people would stop talking about realism in an arcade FPS, i mean wtf. I for one, have never cared for stats, i play the game for sheer fun.

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24.06.2007, 14:58

Since I learned of the stats issue, I haven't logged in to play. My interest is pretty low with there being no stats. As was already mentioned, there's plenty of other games out there that I can play instead. I chose BF2 because the stats system was interesting to me.

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24.06.2007, 17:36

I've been playing just as much as I have been. I'd really prefer to be able to track my progress... but while the system is temp down, I still have the exact amount of fun.

I would be upset to hear if they ever completely kill the system... and I'd be pissed if my acount ever got whipped... but since I know that THIS is a temp issue I'm not worried at all.

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24.06.2007, 17:46

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Originally posted by niomosy
Since I learned of the stats issue, I haven't logged in to play. My interest is pretty low with there being no stats. As was already mentioned, there's plenty of other games out there that I can play instead. I chose BF2 because the stats system was interesting to me.



Me either. Stats are the only redeeming quality of this game.

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24.06.2007, 17:51

Playing for numbers? What happened to playing for fun? StarCraft only had ladder stats, yet everyone played UMS and open call with bots. They still do.
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24.06.2007, 17:53

I think if you are in the top ten, then you should play for points but if your not, you should play just for fun because all you need is a good gun and you get all the good guns as soon as you got a past a certain rank.
I got reset recently but i wasn't bothered about losing my points but i was bothered about losing my M95 because i need that gun[i wont say why] but i started again and got my M95 back and the fun starts again. This game is just amazing without the points also :w00t:

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25.06.2007, 02:47

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Playing for numbers? What happened to playing for fun? StarCraft only had ladder stats, yet everyone played UMS and open call with bots. They still do.



I have several other games that I play for fun. The only thing that held me to BF2 was stats even though mine suck. The hit box lag, tking for vehicles, and the endless moaning and bitching by people has gotten really old. Not to mention almost 75% of the servers are now IO Karkand . It has gotten annoying and boring, so I havent played since the stats went down.

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25.06.2007, 04:06

I love the stats, but I still love the game even without them!


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25.06.2007, 04:18

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Aha, joke? I hope so.

I wish people would stop talking about realism in an arcade FPS, i mean wtf. I for one, have never cared for stats, i play the game for sheer fun.


I wish people would stop acting like an arcade 'STYLE' FPS can't have any realism in it. Is gravity normal? yes. do bullets act like real life? Pretty much. (bullet drop or whatever)do things look VERY real? yes! Hmmm...sounds like a LOT of realism to me! It's arcade style because you can respawn, revive dead people, heal people, repair ANYTHING with a wrench but it's all set in a realism based grfx and physics engine. So don't get all puffed up thinking you're all l337 cus you know the term arcade FPS. It's not realism on the level of America's Army or CSS where if you die you're dead and what not but...as the person you quoted said (and here's a lesson in context) they enjoy a realistic (those aspects I mentioned...they're not concerned with things like 'oh like you can REALLY repair a tank with a wrench') FPS with ragdoll physics. When you say arcade only 5% of people even know what you mean by that. When I first heard the term a long time ago I had to use my own reasoning to even figure out what people meant by that. To me all games are arcade...cus that's where we USED to play games. ANYWAY!! rant over.

To the guy not caring about KDR going for shock paddle kills, there's more chance than there isn't of getting those stats back...so don't destroy your ratio too bad!

I'm just enjoying more time in other games and playing a lil less BF2. just in case I don't get the stats. I do like the stats. It's probably at least 50% of what makes BF2 better than many other games.

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25.06.2007, 05:29

RE: Stats are'nt everything

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Originally posted by chieffangrande
When I first started playing BF2 I knew that the game was a rank progression type of game. I DIDN'T care. What I was most exicited about was the possibilities the game presented. There were wicked weapons and vehicles and planes and a game style that promoted team play. I was in heaven. For a guy who was playing Quake online with a 56k modem and thinking that it couldn't get better years ago this was a modern marvel.

I really enjoyed the game early on but was pwned and artied so often that I "gave up for a while (9 months). When i came back to the game I started playing better and suddenly I was getting medals and badges. I was not sure what the requirements were that I met to get these badges, so I researched and found sites like this one that explained it all. This prompted me to quit playing assualt and spec ops and branch out playing other kits and "working" for stats and ranks. I really enjoyed this part of the game too. But it also brought a fair amount of frustration out in me when I would get 6 knife kills IAR or 19 kills IRA just missing the "candy". I became a stat junkie ,always going for that one badge and getting mad or sad depending on how the game went that round...etc.

Now that the stats have been down for awhile I am rediscovering the game for what I had originally bought it for, a realistic FPS with rag doll physics, great team play, a variety of strategies, and a great community.

The long and short of it is that I have quit worrying about my stats and have started to play the game for nothing else then the enjoyment and fun it provides.

I encourage you all to play for the FUN of it, the stats will be back sonn enough.

dude please this game is not even close to being a realistic FPS ok.Im not flameing ya just saying that this game is not even close to being realistic its modern warfare but not realistic in any way

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