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06.09.2010, 22:05

America's Army 3 - The Truth

Since we dont have freedom of speach in official forums, im posting here, i guess here we have that so called freedom of speach.
Although there are people interested in hiding the truth, I will show what the most prestigious game review websites are saying about this game. Its time stop hiding the truth about this game.
I just picked randomly one of them, searching in google for aa3 review.


We need to know the Graphics quality of this game:

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One of the more grating features of America’s Army 3 is the fact that it is not remotely immersive. Although combat is quickly fatal there is no more of a sense of reality to the game than you’d expect to find in Counter-Strike. Partly this is the fault of the graphics - despite the fact the game is based on the ubiquitous Unreal Engine 3, it looks terrible. It doesn't even stand comparison to games from a few years ago such as Battlefield 2. In keeping with the game's background as a promo for actual modern warfare, the developers have aimed for an understated look, and achieved it, but achieved it to the point that the whole thing seems tepid.


We need to know the Gameplay of this game:

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Gameplay

Couple this with controls don’t feel sharp or accurate enough and you quickly get a sense your character doesn’t seem within the world in an entirely convincing way. There are some nice little details such as the meticulously accurate reloading and jam clearing animations, but in the context of the visuals as a whole they're diamonds in the rough. While the visuals are below par the audio is positively rudimentary: gunshots and bullet impacts sound weak and non-threatening, which is ironic given that combat tends to be quick and lethal. A gun that sounds like a typewriter will cheerfully drop your squad in seconds.
It also takes a while to heal, so the process leaves the medic vulnerable. The damage system isn't too shabby either. When you hit a guy in the leg he’ll hobble away, hit him in the body and his armour will soak up most of the hit. The maps are typically rather uninspiring and feature predominantly close quarters fighting. They're not badly designed per se, but a combination of weak graphics and general blandness don’t help liven them up


We need to know the overall review:

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Final review:

If you like your FPS games hard, calculating and brutal, then America's Army 3 is worth a look. As long as this is the case and you don’t mind if they're designed with all the finesse of a lard sandwich then fill your boots, it’s a free game after all and you may well love it. To the average and casual gamer however, America’s Army 3 is a lot less appealing. The lack of immersion, the difficulty and the ruthlessness of gameplay online is certain to put off those who lack the killer instinct. The array of cool stats to track your progress and the promise of points for things that don’t directly involve killing people give the game a slightly fluffy visage, but it’s a ruse. America’s Army 3 takes no prisoners and even if it did you surely would not want to be one.

With better looking and more accessible alternatives already littering up bargain bins all over the place there are many good reasons not to bother with America’s Army 3. Unike Arma II, it’s no military simulator, it doesn’t compare favourably as a team shooter and even for free it’s not a great bargain.



This is what 99% of the gamers think about this game, as we can see the real truth is completely different from that they try to paint. Thats why AA3 does not have to much players, the gamers just hate AA3, simple as that.
Of course we will have some saying that AA3 is the best game of the earth (it could be if was not surrounded by some blind and fanatic ppl.), but this what the world think about AA3.

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07.09.2010, 10:58

Currently AA3 is all but perfect this is a fact; bugs annoying a lot and maybe developers are incompetent but like you pointed up, still exist freedom of choice; so why you simply don't play another game instead to lose time to find news and argumentations for put shit on this game?



Did them asked money to you or what? AA3 it's a game and YOU can decide if play it or don't play.



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07.09.2010, 21:21

When the Pragmatic and America's Army decide to return all the money I gave to them, I'm going to shut me up.
Until then I am a dissatisfied customer with the sensation that was defrauded. By the amount of money that Pragmatic and America's Army charged me all this time, they had obligation to provide me a high quality product and they provided a low quality product.
I have the right to feel defrauded, I have the right to say it.


This idea of a free game is nothing more than a ruse.

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08.09.2010, 00:08

When the Pragmatic and America's Army decide to return all the money I gave to them, I'm going to shut me up.
Until then I am a dissatisfied customer with the sensation that was defrauded. By the amount of money that Pragmatic and America's Army charged me all this time, they had obligation to provide me a high quality product and they provided a low quality product.
I have the right to feel defrauded, I have the right to say it.


This idea of a free game is nothing more than a ruse.

What exactly have you paid for?



I have not paid anything as it is a free game.



I love AA3 but also realise it is no where near perfect. I enjoy playing it even with its bugs and therefore will continue to play it!



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08.09.2010, 00:27

When the Pragmatic and America's Army decide to return all the money I gave to them, I'm going to shut me up.
Until then I am a dissatisfied customer with the sensation that was defrauded. By the amount of money that Pragmatic and America's Army charged me all this time, they had obligation to provide me a high quality product and they provided a low quality product.
I have the right to feel defrauded, I have the right to say it.


This idea of a free game is nothing more than a ruse.

What exactly have you paid for?



I have not paid anything as it is a free game.




I love AA3 but also realise it is no where near perfect. I enjoy playing it even with its bugs and therefore will continue to play it!



Coxy



I paid 30.00 U.S. dollars, for the honor, to Pragmatic every month for five years so you and me can play this "free" game and achieve honor.

Well..30x60=1800. So i paid 1800.00 U.S. dollars to Pragmatic and America's Army. I guess with 1800 dollars i can buy alot of games, dont you think? But no.. I remained faithful to AA and i was betrayed.

And thousands have paid the same or more, so they, with our money, had obligation to do better..and not this bugged thing called game.

Just as note, the real owner of this game is not the US Army, the real owner is Pragmatic, even the official website is powered and managed by Pragmatic. Pragmatic earned much money with us all this years and they are providing a low quality service.

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08.09.2010, 07:57

Well I guess they are not interested in money anymore. Because they turned a gold mine into a pile of shit.

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08.09.2010, 08:57

When the Pragmatic and America's Army decide to return all the money I gave to them, I'm going to shut me up.
Until then I am a dissatisfied customer with the sensation that was defrauded. By the amount of money that Pragmatic and America's Army charged me all this time, they had obligation to provide me a high quality product and they provided a low quality product.
I have the right to feel defrauded, I have the right to say it.


This idea of a free game is nothing more than a ruse.

What exactly have you paid for?



I have not paid anything as it is a free game.




I love AA3 but also realise it is no where near perfect. I enjoy playing it even with its bugs and therefore will continue to play it!



Coxy



I paid 30.00 U.S. dollars, for the honor, to Pragmatic every month for five years so you and me can play this "free" game and achieve honor.

Well..30x60=1800. So i paid 1800.00 U.S. dollars to Pragmatic and America's Army. I guess with 1800 dollars i can buy alot of games, dont you think? But no.. I remained faithful to AA and i was betrayed.

And thousands have paid the same or more, so they, with our money, had obligation to do better..and not this bugged thing called game.

Just as note, the real owner of this game is not the US Army, the real owner is Pragmatic, even the official website is powered and managed by Pragmatic. Pragmatic earned much money with us all this years and they are providing a low quality service.

I don't like polemic and if you feel/are a not satisfied customer then you have your rights; just I don't understand why you talk about 5 years coz, as I know, Pragmatic wasn't in AA and AAO...



BTW I agree with you about freedom of choice but not in freedom of polemics in general.
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08.09.2010, 20:02

just I don't understand why you talk about 5 years coz, as I know, Pragmatic wasn't in AA and AAO...


Pragmatic have AA practically from the beginning.

Who thinks this is a free game is silly or not want to see.

Pragmatic and America's Army have found a different way of selling, pretty clever i should say, but still is nothing more than a sell.
At this point probably you are saying that i am crazy. How can they sell the game funded by the U.S. Government??
Then let's see...:

A company like EA produce a game, let's say BC2, to produce this game EA has to invest its own resources, therefore do not have any funding from any government, when the game is finished they sell the game with the intention to monetize the investment and have profit, they sell the game normally through disk or through online direct download. On average each copy of the game will cost 50.00 US dollar.
After that EA no longer makes any profit from the game. EA does not have any interference or profit in the business of servers needed to be able to play online to achieve rank/honor, this business is in the hands of Server Providers.
If we want to have a BC2 Ranked Server we only need to pay the rent of the server to the Server Provider, we do not need to pay any money to EA.

Thats why a Bad Company 2 honor/ranked server costs 1.24 US dollar per slot/player.


A company like Pragmatic/America's Army produce a game with funds from U.S. Government, therefore they do not need to invest they own financial resources and because of that they are distributing the game online for free.
So far so good, they did not make any investment in the game and as such they can distribute it for free.
But and BUT if we want to play online and achieve honor/rank we have to pay to Pragmatic, and who pays to Pragmatic that money? The server owners.
Pragmatic charge for honor/rank and charge it every month for every ranked/honor server (30.00 US dollars month).
That means we have to pay the rent of the server to Server Providers and we have to pay the honor/rank of the server to Pragmatic, every month. Now we just have to count how many AA2 or AA3 servers exists or has existed online and multiply by 30.
Thats how Pragmatic is selling the game, they are charging monthly rent for the game and they are having huge profit with that. Like i said, this is a very clever way of sell.

Thats why a AA3 honor/ranked server costs 3.49 US dollar per slot/player.



Now in my opinion this Pragmatic is so dead as AA3, let's see..
The webpage where they sell the honor has expired certificates.
https://www.aahonor.com/honor_reg.php

The Pragmatic webpage is all messed.
http://www.pr-sol.com/levdev_case_studies.php

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "[BAHAMUT].Mohican" (08.09.2010, 20:21)


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08.09.2010, 20:36

biggest problem is the lack of support. the official forum crew is just incompetent. they like their current mod-status,acting without any visible plan aaaand probably dont even play their own game.( but they are professional in kickbans or warnings...i pay for their "honor-rip" and theyre protecting cheaters that ruin my payed gameplay...ridiculous^^)

i rent a server and got a not playable server. i have to look for tweaks to make it running halfway lag-and bugfree. i ask for some help but the "help" in the official forum cannot help...
i can accept that i have to tweak my own pc since not all are configurated the same way...but a honorserver for 62,95€ per month??!! without any help,advise,a nice manual or just a forum support that is worth the word support?!

so you spend 3 payed days just to find the right settings spreaded all over the web^^

they need some guys with knowledge over there,but since one "friend" makes another to a beta or even mod it will never happen.

really a strange gang over there....

btw...

SpectatorMode=SpecMode_All................someone knows the line to set it finallly to first person view??! :w00t:

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08.09.2010, 22:51

; Spectator Modes
; SpecMode_All - Can spectate players (3rd and 1st person) and viewpoints
; SpecMode_PlayersOnly - Players only (3rd and 1st person)
; SpecMode_FirstPersonOnly - Players only in 1st person


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14.09.2010, 00:11

Why aa3 is so bad...look at this..hilarious :P

One guy asking for support on this crapy game...once again...the answer from support was....

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Assuming that you don't have a faulty processor, or one that is not overheating

http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.…2958972#2958972

Even me, being a lumberer with a keyboard, i can see the work of the guy that is asking for support, looking at his website, he is a professional, he has a powerfull pc, he is doing heavy rendering work, his processor can handle with that heavy work... but well.. for aa3 is one more faulty processor...hilarious.
Look at his website, look at his work:
http://tmdag.com/blog


hilarious :blink:

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14.09.2010, 10:07

after reading many threads in this forum it seems to me that you and others like you are so in love with AA2 that you will go to extraordinary lengths to put people off playing AA3 it's quite pathetic. if you dont like it or hate it so much why not just disappear and leave people who do appreciate the game to it? its not like your going to actually influence people in anyway especially peiople who are new to the game. infact your words aimed toward AA3 remind me of a saying i know *stick and stones may break my bones...* (you can google the rest!)

i was hoping my first post would be a good and introductory one instead i find a section of forum on the game i play slating it on every other thread? wow united front! get over it men haha come play instead of whining and enjoy. hating is sooo 90's

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14.09.2010, 11:46

Why aa3 is so bad...look at this..hilarious :P

One guy asking for support on this crapy game...once again...the answer from support was....

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Assuming that you don't have a faulty processor, or one that is not overheating

http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.…2958972#2958972

Even me, being a lumberer with a keyboard, i can see the work of the guy that is asking for support, looking at his website, he is a professional, he has a powerfull pc, he is doing heavy rendering work, his processor can handle with that heavy work... but well.. for aa3 is one more faulty processor...hilarious.
Look at his website, look at his work:
http://tmdag.com/blog


hilarious :blink:


I considered myself as a whiner, but... MAN gimme a break. Yes u hate game, u hate devs u hate all that has anything to do with the game. U have proven ur point many times and i agree about it faults. I play game now and then, and i dont like bugs or lag and it doesnt work as it should. But ur posting is almost sick... dont u have anything else in ur life? Why u dont do something that u like instead of writing bullshit from game that u dont even like?

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14.09.2010, 19:10

I considered myself as a whiner,

Whiners are boring ppl.

Yes u hate game, u hate devs u hate all that has anything to do with the game.

No.

dont u have anything else in ur life?

No.

Why u dont do something that u like instead of writing bullshit from game that u dont even like?

I'm enjoying.. a lot.

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14.09.2010, 20:21

i can understand mohican in most ways ;) since noone gets answers im angry too.but that doesnt mean HATE^^

hes a bit like a terrier whens its about aa3....better dont fight with him physically - you beat him down,he get up,get beat down,get up again and so on :D

i like this attitude,without guys like him nothing would change(i know,i know-it doesnt change even with that caring guys-but at least he trys)

more worst are the people that swallow everything they get delivered-because its free^^


btw:THX Louis;)

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14.09.2010, 20:30

just make a big favour for all and return to AA2

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14.09.2010, 21:05

show me a full courtyard server online each night and im in m8;)

no,really,i needed some time but i like the gameplay of aa3 now.game itself has some huge faults but overall its for me -personally- more fun.
medic system is great(if we would had that in aa2,omg,not 90% win on CY,no,120% :D ) and the sound and no death messages makes it more a competition for me.buuut...just my opinion.

so,if you forget a sec about the problems of the game or that pseudeo-military "respect me or kickban" crew that covers the devs for too much complaints over in the official forum----its a good and fun game ;)

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14.09.2010, 21:22

It's freedom of speech.

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15.09.2010, 02:55

after reading many threads in this forum it seems to me that you and others like you are so in love with AA2 that you will go to extraordinary lengths to put people off playing AA3 it's quite pathetic. if you dont like it or hate it so much why not just disappear and leave people who do appreciate the game to it? its not like your going to actually influence people in anyway especially peiople who are new to the game. infact your words aimed toward AA3 remind me of a saying i know *stick and stones may break my bones...* (you can google the rest!)

i was hoping my first post would be a good and introductory one instead i find a section of forum on the game i play slating it on every other thread? wow united front! get over it men haha come play instead of whining and enjoy. hating is sooo 90's


In fact you read it wrong. I like this game, this game has a huge potential, the conception is excellent and i play it almost everyday. I said that several times in official forum, but that do not stop me from saying the truth here and there, and the truth is that the game is a big mess, a huge pile of crap, a disgrace for US Army.

What really piss me off is to see the incompetence for which the game is surrounded. Not blaming the devs here, im blaming those who are in charge of this project and directories that they have adopted. As an "old dev" said..the orders in that forum are to ban all those who criticize or point flaws to the game.

Im pissed because I see people, volunteers (and volunteers are being here by affection to the game) destroying the game, those with the attitudes of denial and not wanting to get involved saying the truth, so that they can contribute to the improvement of this game, they prefer to hide their heads in the sand in a denial "chicken" attitude just to please some, they are the main culprits for the conditions of the game.

The game already has 8 or 9 patchs, all this patchs had been tested before public release and none of those who are responsible for the quality of this game had the capablity to detect the problems, these preoblems were detected by us, simple players, in a couple of hours after the patch release.

Based on the principle that people are capable, they detected the problems, as we did, but they chose to hide them, they choose to lie, why they did that? Because there are vested interests behind this game namely, beta + clans, clans + server providers, these ppl choose to hide the truth to defend their interests, showing a total lack of respect for the game and to further aggravate the situation some of these people have a position of prominence in official forum. Thats why the official word in the official forum is "the game is perfect, we do not see any problem".
This really piss me off, they are volunteers, they should love this game, but no, they are doing the opposite.

Im mad not because i hate this game, i mad because those who should help this game are destroying it.

Im pissed with who allows these incomprehensible attitudes, he is the real responsible or else he is being deceived.

Yes, i will shout every where the truth, maybe some one listen and remove those who are really hurting this game.

And yes, I am disappointed with the path chosen.

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15.09.2010, 11:38

well that is only your own opinion and i dont see anyone else saying this stuff. it seems to me something else is up here. your obviously a man scorned and your views and concerns are overshadowed by hate towards individuals. this makes your input invalid to me.