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[Weapons Cache] Defense Tactics


 

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20.02.2004, 02:14

Defense Tactics

Ok, so you want to play Weapons Cache, the greatest map in the game? The map that tests your long range shooting, 203'ing, nading, and CQB skills? Always remember the key to Weapons Cache: speed.

DEFENSE

You probably want to go either north or shipping/receiving. Mid usually isn't a problem because there will usually be a small group of noobs in the warehouse, but you can adjust depending on what OPFOR is doing.

North-

If you're in B team, you should probably go north. Usually too many people go S/R and those 4 B team spots are vital for success at north. If the 203 isn't that good, on your way to elevator toss a nade out window and aim for the trucks near s/r, usually good for a kill or 2. Head down ladder and jump when you see this colored line near the bottom, you will get there faster and won't get hurt. A good tip to get down ladder faster is if you are rifleman, turn from single to automatic before you haed down shaft and while you change you'll skip half the rungs. When you're in north, there are 3 things I usually do. Either cook a nade immediately and toss it through the half open door, toss a slightly cooked nade down the first bend and run to check the middle door, or just rush down the hall and catch everyone offguard. Switch up your tactics to keep enemy on their toes. After the initial rush is stopped, toss a couple nades down hall and then go out door and flank. Keep an eye out for 203 campers outside, if there are any just turn around and help out around the warehouse. If you are faster than the enemy, you can stop a north rush.

S/R-

The best way to kill S/R enemies is to rush at first, then pull back. Rush through S/R some rounds, remembering to jump down the stairs for speed, and others hurry and toss a nade into s/r before they know you're there. A good S/R rusher can stop both these, so sometimes its best to fall back and lean around the corner, watching the stairs for a crazy rusher. When you feel like mixing it up, its best to fall back to to the room next to the rack and toss nades into the hallway. Be quick, and watch for the rushers who try to catch you off guard. Lying prone on the rack is an old tactic, but it works and most people won't expect it any more. S/R is harder to defend than north.

Hope this helped, I usually go north for the easier kills but somebody has to help out at S/R :)

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21.02.2004, 02:02

Thanx

Thanx a lot this has really helped

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21.02.2004, 02:17

Great map.

Good ideas you have there.

I should say that you should either rush SR like a mofo on speed and nade the room downstairs or wait until opfor pops his head in, and give him a good run for his money. Usually they wont come barging in UNLESS they have a nade in their hand in that case hopefully they didnt cook it long enough and hopefully they throw it past you so you can rush them take them out then duck under the computers wait til they run out of bullets or take a break then stand up and fry their asses. note, if there is an SAW or more than 2+ guys down there you will probably get your ass handed to you. But in any case, just try to take out as many as possible.

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22.02.2004, 05:08

WOOT good post this really helped.

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22.02.2004, 15:25

Basically all that stuff is obvious, the trick nowadays is trying to get teams working together and going the way they are supposed to go thats the trick.


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22.02.2004, 15:30

Damn, I think I stated these a long time ago.

After having 108 hours clocked in WC, these tactics ARE BASICS to winning! What I do, is go to the "hot spot" (the place where they come from most often), I let them come, so they can be surprised about my NADE!

If you learn how to use nades, you'll become a great assaulter/defender on WC. Bouncing them off corners, silencing them (no "Frag Out!"), and BINDING that your throwing a nade so you can silent nade all you want.
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22.02.2004, 17:31

Good post, thx

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22.02.2004, 19:05

Good tactics!! thanks!
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22.02.2004, 21:04

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A good tip to get down ladder faster is if you are rifleman, turn from single to automatic before you haed down shaft and while you change you'll skip half the rungs.



What excatly do u mean by this? { ?( Im confused ?( }

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23.02.2004, 03:22

Here is a defense tactic I use.

This tactic is dependant on the Assault having poor 203s and the your teamates getting a few lucky nades out of the upper window. If either of those are the case then the guys on assault will get scared. They take the long way into S/R. If they do this then you can haul butt and get down onto the steps in S/R. Just sit there and wait for them to open the door. Occasionally they will get a lucky nade in and if that is the case you are screwed. But more often then not you will head shoot them before they get in.

Also if you are on assault and you manage to get into S/R first you can close the door behind you and move over to the side with the table. If you sit there you will be able to easily take out the defenders as they walk unsuspectingly down into the room. Again sometimes they will get a lucky nade off but normally if you are a desent shot you will pop them in the face.

Take note, I have noticed people figuring out these two tactics much more recently but they still work pretty well.

Oh yeah one more thing. Camping does not work when you are on Assault. I know all of you have seen it and more likely then not tried it. I assure you, there is a reason the team is called assault, they are supposed to assault. The other day I was playing and my entire team but me and one other guy were camping. We lost all seven games. Moral of the story, don't camp.
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23.02.2004, 13:46

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This tactic is dependant on the Assault having poor 203s and the your teamates getting a few lucky nades out of the upper window. If either of those are the case then the guys on assault will get scared. They take the long way into S/R.


I dont agree with your opinion of that. Ive seen teams that when the are getting nades thrown @ them they are least likely to go shipping.(Due to more nades maybe thrown in their direction).They might go North Hallway or go through the West Entrance.

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If they do this then you can haul butt and get down onto the steps in S/R. Just sit there and wait for them to open the door.


So I dont entirely agree with this tactic 8o

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23.02.2004, 15:01

right. thats true. but it is very rare when the completly abandon S/R.
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23.02.2004, 15:17

Nice work and typing :D it looks good to me ..... 8)

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23.02.2004, 21:13

Too Gully your sig is too big man, it can be 600x200
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24.02.2004, 01:55

I have counted 109 places to hide in WC, about 4 places are very protected.

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24.02.2004, 04:00

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What I mean by changing from Single to automatic is to open door and sprint to a couple feet before you head down the shaft, then right click and change from single to automatic and while you are changing from single to automatic, you don't grab onto any rungs. Therefore, you head down the ladder much faster. You have to be careful, because if you change too late you will fall right to the bottom of the shaft and get red. When done correctly, it works well.

Throwing a nade out window at start is able to be done by B SAW basically all the time, although sometimesif they have a good 203 you will get yellow and bleeding after the nade. With a bad/OK 203, you can nade out from fireteam leader or the other 2 spots. It works better with SAW because you you do it faster, therefore getting any of the people that might have only gotten yellow/red from your nade.

Also, about assault camping. It is very annoying for for any defense trying to flank, but it is a tactic. I don't know if any of you know CKA_Isterisk, but he is a bigtime assault camper but he has a good shot and gets lots of kills.

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24.02.2004, 04:52

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@Punisher-[F2] , wow, 108 hours by you, 150 hours by Mike you people play a lot.
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26.02.2004, 07:59

hey good stuff ill try it once i jump on this map, im still content playing some good ol' pipe


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01.03.2004, 17:27

easyest thing, guard prim, I wont tell how, secret....
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01.03.2004, 17:28

gurad second, wait for E sound that there taking obj, pop out and shoot them.