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29.06.2010, 03:22

A Walk in My Shoes™ Part 2-Defense

A Walk in My Shoes Part 2: Defense
For part one:
Link 1-Via Battletracker
Link 2-Goto ({STAR}) Clan Website, make an account on the site, and request a copy of Part 1 and/or Part 2 be emailed/delivered to you.
Quick Disclaimer: I permit you to use this guide freely on your site/clan, should it be delivered/emailed to you. I only ask you give credit to me, the source.
Heres the legend so there is no confusion:

llllllllll=Movement

llllllllll=Enemy Engage

llllllllll=Something I would not and therefore you would do best not to do




When I first start out on a server playing bridge, I don't rush up, I start conservatively, try to get a feel for how hard they move, then make choices. But my first choice is to take the far tree, not the first or middle one, first one is well known, second has no cover, you'll be a sitting duck. Far one is the last checked tree by a lot of people, and its a good way to cover right side. Plus the hills behind it aren't a good choice, because if you take those spots, most of them won't enable you to engage targets until AFTER they pass the archway, and that's when it gets tense, lot of places you need eyes on and a pretty large space for 1-2 people to cover, assuming its down to the nitty-gritty but more of that later.




Well, a picture's worth a thousand words. The yellow zone I marked, it'll be ok if you have sniper or are just looking for guys goin up top, but if you're anything like me you don't limit your L.O.S like that, you'll want to get a good sighting over a good area. But ok, the tree on the right I marked, good for engaging a few enemies then splitting, recommend lying prone then going sideways to see out of the corner of your eye to spot from a bit farther of a distance away.




Here's a better view of the tree spot. This is a decent spot to cover the right catwalk and maybe a few guys comin up at you. As the picture says, don't linger there. If the opposing forces have people who can hear rather well,(which is to be expected) only stay to pick off 1-2 people, 2 being the very most. After the first kill, they will suspect, after second kill they'll know. So after you take care of buisness over there, get out of that spot as fast as possible. If noone is at stairs, goto them and get people from there. But try going out and around if you think you have the time. If not your in range and an easy target for any guys on your pillars. And you shouldn't even be in any danger from the guys on top while your moving, you shouldn't even be in close enough in view for them to get at you.




So you made it to the stairs, this is more dangerous than the tree, because you have 4 places to watch out for, depending on how exposed you decide to make yourself. The top middle tower; archway to archway, the ground behind and below you, and should you lose track of any, the tower doors above you. But there are tricks to at least slightly improve your chances. Those will be added in a "Misc Tactics" section after this guide. But back to the topic at hand. Its to your discretion how much you reveal yourself, so this is a harder area to really "help" on. I recommend engaging these areas in this order. Mid top, left archway near the ladder, farthest pillars, then working your way up. But also remember to keep an eye on your backside, even if teammates are around, trust to an extent, but don't put your 'life' in their hands.




Ok, if you got a decent idea of what the enemy does, time to change your strategy. Even if you don't, sorry to say it but you gotta do something new. A quick note, I know that first part with all the green may be confusing, the part the caption mentions about moving up after numbers slim out is referring to going past the arch. But in my mind you should only do that when their grenadier is either out of grenades or dead. Even then excercise extreme caution. I also dont really recommend doing it if your the only one left, and when there are more than 2 people left on assault. You don't necessarily have to restrict your movement and coverage to the stairs, if you have a sniper rifle, take the yellow spot beside the stairs if you want, though I don't wholly recommend it. But don't cram up a spot if there's already people on it, again, common sense, but some people group together and it makes them an easy target for a grenadier who knows how to use his weapons.




If you have the G class, here's a little tipper on getting any idle people, though I don't recommend doing this unless you know there is an idle player. Also, I aimed a bit to the left of where you want to aim so you can get a better idea of where to aim at, or at least get an idea. You want to aim to the right, so the middle of the back iron sight is in good alignment with the middle of the top part of the tower. Seemingly confusing but you'll see what I mean when you actually go to do it in game should you try. Or if you want to modify this, go into practice mode offline and try aiming a little bit down and to the right, you could hit assault's "no-zone" I marked on the other part of this guide, people often use the no-zone early on to get to the bridge quicker.




If you have G class, heres a little 'nade you can pop to possibly kill 2 birds with one stone, well, figuratively and in theory anyways. Because when you think about it, many people use the car and the nearby pillars. But again, this is an optional shot, best chance to get someone on a drop/spam shot is at best an educated guess. Theres no definately certain spot you can hit guaranteed to hit anyone at anytime. But the spot marked "Pillar" will be explained and showed more clearly in "Misc Tactics". But the picture explains what to do better than words can, so I'll save some.




Here's a little better view of what you can do when you get up there a ways. I know the car thing slightly contradicts, but tactic and strategy can change in your mind quicker than a snap of a finger. I at least try to keep this in mind at all times. I know that can proceed with further contradictions but thats a rant on its own, back onto the topic at hand. As I mentioned, don't go down the middle of the bridge. Even if assaut is "a noob team", "highly camping", or "really slow to move". Keep in mind someone new could have a swip-swap with someone who isnt good enough for the position they have. Everything could change. So don't try to be a daredevil or risk taker like that, for one, easy target, for two, for pride and dignity reasons. Noone, including you, wants to see a 75+ honor expert player running down the middle of the bridge like a chicken with his head cut off, and get killed. I mean if you want to go rambo go ahead, do so at your own risk. But thats my 2 cents on that, just my opinion.


You guys notice i didnt provide pictures of what to do at the middle arch? Yes, simply because defense's job is to defend, but if you feel like you need to go past arch, then thats your strategy to work.
That does it for the Defense guide, the Misc Tactics add-on will hopefully be completed soon, as its rather small, but then again i need to go back through and check out my tactics again, make sure it checks out and validly can apply.Thanks to all the fellow members of the Star Clan that were supporting and cheering me on as I was making this. Also, a bigger shout out goes to all the people I have played bridge with in the past that have helped me learn, build, and become the bridge player I am today. If you've played bridge with me before, and have been able to smack me around a couple good times, then this applies to you.

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29.06.2010, 04:12

Excellent work again Shadow. But you now realize, I know what you will be thinking next time we play :)

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29.06.2010, 04:25

Actually Bads i took that into acocunt, now that way when we go against each other i can do exactly the opposite of what i usually do

Wait...did i just say that out loud? Damn.... Oh well
Kidding, but im glad you appreciate it

EDIT:Mispelled the word "but", wow...

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29.06.2010, 12:30

another good ost for beginners.
As you started with, see how assault plays and adopt to their way of playing.
I wont add anything or comment anything coz the stuff I know wont be published
in public :P

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30.06.2010, 02:50

Well i hope it helps someone out, new completely or just new to the map.

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30.06.2010, 07:15

SS #1 - Is definite NO NO in 2.8.5, You will be spammed on that green line very easy for first Flank rushers at 6:54 -:52 on first clip, Second clip Flankers at 6:46 - 6:44 (I'm talking Spam with the M16)
SS#7 - I find very Interesting, Are you referring to spamming first car and 1st pillars on ass side from there? I find that intriguing if you are.

However this comment from the explanation of SS #7 I so find Not to be true.
" Theres no definately certain spot you can hit guaranteed to hit anyone at anytime."

That statement is by far not true mate. A vetran of the bridge will know what times people cross arch, when they get to stairs, or how long it takes to move from various points.
examples.

Defence=
It takes 14 Seconds For Defence to run From Back road spawn to Defense Tower Arch.
It takes approximately 7 -8 seconds for Spawn In tower to reach Defense Tower Arch.

Assault=
From Spawn Running over Broken Log In a diagonal direction running it will take 16 - 18 seconds to reach Assault Arch.
If you run Straight at spawn, cut the 90 degree angle and run mini pillars on left side to Assault stairs it will take approximately 24 - 30 Seconds to reach stairs.

In ethier tower, leaving stairs and running for last set of pillars on bridge will take you 13 seconds without stopping.

A vetran will now these things and use it against people who are unfamilar with things such as timing and can almost with 85% assurance gurantee a kill with a properly learned 203 (Drop, or 45 Degree Angle Style).

As Baloo said very nice beginers format. He will use it against you. :)

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30.06.2010, 22:25

Thanks for the tips, ill keep these in mind.

Also for SS7, yes, thats its main purpose is car and it can work for the first pillars

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24.07.2010, 10:01

Good tips there. Personally I wouldn't hide near that far tree, but that's just me. The reason being is that if assault smoke the bridge (which they will do if they are to move forward successfully) then you are vulnerable to be flanked if an enemy runs down the left defense catwalk and runs through the defense tower arch. Unless of course you trust that your team mate(s) have the def tower arch covered. What I like to do in those situations is not to go prone near any tree, but crouch and be on the move. I like to be near the tree close to the tower but behind it; using the hill in front as cover. Then alternate between looking down the bridge and through the arch. You will often get kills when enemies run to the end of the left def catwalk and peek above the ledge.

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25.07.2010, 04:03

-you are vulnerable to be flanked if an enemy runs down the left defense catwalk and runs through the defense tower arch

Thats the biggest issue, and i dont trust teammates in the tower, on the ground, yes to a certain limited extent. (This case would be if you were on assault>>>) For enemies prone on the archways under the ladders, apart from the guys at the first pillars (as well as the upper stairs if you should choose to go on the right), the towers are the first things people usually check.

What you said works too, ive been changing the way i do things in bridge, to both variate and evolve my strategy, and to get a feel for what an enemys mind might think to potentially counter-act my typical strategies, a few people ive been playing against are seemingly catching on to this:(

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25.07.2010, 21:47

As another bridge whore I'd say the best thing ya can do on bridge as being defense is rushing, since you're always faster doesn't matter where ya spawn. Tho you have to be careful with left ( noob ) tree and strs fags.

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25.07.2010, 22:38

-Tho you have to be careful with left ( noob ) tree and strs fags.

Yeah, id rather go that way though than through the right with the stairs unless i have a sniper rifle though, i dont like the right side much at all anyways.

Kept doing the same thing earlier on bridge, i was being a bit careless...but somehow went 91-34, guess somethings working:)

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04.08.2010, 07:38

I suck on this map so maybe it will help a little

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04.08.2010, 07:58

Thats my aim, hope it helps, if you got any questions, feel free to ask :thumbup:

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21.11.2010, 11:19

very nice!! thanks!